Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge - Waste Of  Money

Admin Anne posted this on our Facebook page this evening.

I agreed with Steven Evans to unpublish the pages, and to provide them with the opportunity to prove their integrity. Instead he reported my account and had it disabled. and will continue to report posts on this page. So there seems to be no ethic or word to his agreement particularly as I recorded the conversations which will be uploaded to blog.

He is also being helped by this third party he is reporting accounts and has had them removed from Facebook with false IP reports. Please watch your accounts. I would have thought that an agreement to unpublish the page and given them the opportunity to run their business would have sufficed. Three innocent people have lost their accounts some with all their baby photos. Please be careful as this is not going to change.

This person is another party to the reporting. Just for precaution, I left accounts which would protect my account in case Steven Evans Proved me wrong. Sadly, he did. We were happy to unpublish the pages because we believed that the time had come to settle the matter. To go one step further and sabotage accounts is unconscionable.

Hence the page stays with all the information in perpetuity. Please remember it is not a hate page. Kind Regards Anne.

PS I no longer have my account as I am appealing with IP at Facebook but if you need me you have my email address. Kind Regards

Originally written and posted by The Universe & I.

Ashy Bines, obviously highly uneducated on spreading such misleading information towards her large female audience.

http://instagram.com/p/YM2LEivsDA/

A lot of the comments that went against her own opinion were (typically) removed, as well as fitmeow’s response attached below.

The Truth About Gummy Bears – A.K.A Gelatin

As someone who knows about the use of gelatin, it is commonly found in all sorts of consumables. Mainly anything that has a “jelly” sort of texture, such as the gummy bears, cakes, marshmallows, sauces, soups and many more.

When a butcher finishes up on separating each parts of an animal carcass to sell, there definitely will be bones leftover. What will he/she do to these bones? Definitely not just throw them away. That’s a huge waste of money! The butcher will sell it to factories or even in their own shop.

Bones have many uses and it’s own nutritional uses within it’s bone marrows. Even us human beings since the primitive ages enjoyed consuming the marrows off of the bone and up till now within certain cooking recipes.

The main ingredients for animal stock comes from bones. A stock can be used for many things, such as sauces, soups and more.

Even your usual steak contains animal bi products and were attached onto these so called leftover bones.

• No plan emailed, and no direction or instructions as to where to obtain it, just a link to a facebook group. Newer members may get an email with their personal log in details to a forum, where they are required to download the plan from there, rather than receiving it once the payment has been made.
• When you finally figure out where to obtain the "plan," it's just a bunch of recipes put together by the forum members free of charge, and info straight off of the internet that has been plagiarized, and made to be Ashy's own recipes.
• The facebook group/forum is not only not supportive but incredibly abusive. There is a lack of both support and advice from "professionals," and if you have any constructive criticism about the diet or the forum, or any advice on how to improve anything, you'll get shut down rudely, bullied, deleted off of the forum and blocked from everything without warning.
• The refund policy is simply "no refunds," and apparently Ashy and Steven have the right to delete and block you without any warning, if you say anything that upsets her, or anything bad regarding their work ethics. Australian laws state that offering no refunds is illegal, and since Ashy and Steven's business began in Broadbeach, Queensland, they fall under Australian Laws, and are not exempt.
• Ashy very rarely replies to any questions like she promises too. On the rare occasion that she does, she'll almost always say "google it babe."

A quote from a concerned customer:

"Some facts that have been uncovered or discovered during my phone calls to my bank, Fair Trading Qld and the ACCC in the past two days:

 

• Ashy Bines business/company/whatever it is, displays (visible only to my bank, not on my credit card statement) as "Sporting Goods Store"
• Fair Trading advised that whenever entering into a purchase with any online business that you should ensure that you have their ABN, a phone contact and an actual business address, not just a website address.
• I did not receive a Tax Invoice, including the GST from Ashy Bines which I should have received.
• The Ashy Bines Clean Eating Diet Plan website is not an Australian based website as it is ".com" (I don't think this is in breach of anything, but it did alert Fair Trading to thinking that I was dealing with an overseas business, until I advised them that they were based here on the Gold Coast)
• I have contacted the ACCC and outlined my issues/concerns with the business/company and the product sold to me. They have advised me that they are in breach of Section 18 and Section 48 (Component Pricing - where they have stated a single price, only then to charge a different price that included GST). The ACCC has today logged my complaint against this business and will be following through on that. Should they receive enough complaints, the investigation into this business will then be listed on their website (you will be able to search on their search bar on the main ACCC website if this is the case). The lady I spoke to was unable to tell me if they had received any other complaints against this business as all calls are understandably in complete confidence."

 

It seems that some directors, namely Steven Evans, is fiddling whilst Rome is burning. Everything we have done on our page has been legal, and focused on breaches of consumer laws. We were vindicated by the ruling from OFT, and we continue to advocate for our community.

Rather than, after pleading for 12 months for their companies' to change their business model and work toward giving themselves a better name, they continue to attempt to sabotage our community.

We are not breaching Facebook Copyright laws.

We are no longer able to advertise.

We are constantly being reported as are our posts.

Anything to cover up the truth right?

WE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE ABBBC PAGE. That is something we have had no knowledge of until it occurred. We simply followed the instructions given to us by the Office of Fair Trading..... Read their letter.

Note, Post made by Ashy Bines which are public posts and some of which we use as our headers are all being reported as our accounts.

We have done nothing illegal, rather protecting clean eaters around the world who are committed to it, and who are entitled to receive what they paid for, and not be mislead habitually.

We concceed there has been improvements as of December 2012, but yet we have managed to find so many further breaches which are duly reported as they should be to the relevant bodies.

This page for those who do not understand or have a legitimate question is not about '[diets]'. We all know clean eating works, it is a lifestyle choice and we support it. What we object to is sabotage, stalking, breaches of consumer legislation, some false testimonials, and the lack of customer service.

There were 2500 reports made to facebook with hundreds of screenshots proving the former ABBBC page had breached TOC's of Facebook and buying likes. In fact we found the multiple companies used by Steven Evans to purchase those likes and were able to link them to facebook investigators.

Ashy Bines Brand, is diminishing the reputation of hard working PT's and other businesses by the conduct in which they have engaged in.

We will blog soon about our complaints once they have been dealt with, we cannot do so until the time comes, as it usurps the investigative bodies rights to run their investigation with unfeterred interruption and without interference from social media.

Here are some examples of the public posts which ABBBC posted and then reported when we used them on our page.

We invite Steven Evans Director to draw a contract up which we will sign stating that he will refund all unhappy customers post ruling via OFT, and further provide contractual guarantees not to engage in misleading and deceptive conduct. Once that is done this page will be unpublished.

To the Gracious Pantry who inspire so many, thank you for your dedication to clean eaters around the world. Tiffany you are a giant amongst women and your work is a credit to you.

Mr Evans by contrast, why waste your time attacking, reporting and sabotaging our posts , do you

have an issue with the truth? What a waste of precious time and resources better spent on your business.

Reported Posts (only examples there are 30 of them altogether) - The irony is that ABBBC use other peoples information all the time, steal recipes and attribute them to their own business, including testimonials and photos. So we cannot advertise our page any more, at the very least we earned out likes.

Kind Regards

Anne

We are going to publish the response to our long complaint to OFT on behalf of the thousands of community members.

You will note we have been referred to other agencies which we will follow up this week with the evidence we have collected.

Whilst Mr. Evans Director, commented on our page to the contrary, stating they have never breached consumer laws, they have in fact been found to have breached the relevant provisions and moreover this has necessitated the involvement of Compliance to force their company to make substantial changes in order to comply with the law.

Up to 5 December 2012, ABBBC Pty Ltd has conducted its business in breach of OFT Legislation and ACL Legislation, therefore unlawfully.

We cannot obtain individual refunds for people, but we were able to provide you with a voice and to effect change to protect new consumers in the future. Please feel free to make your complaints personally in order to get a directive for you to obtain a refund in accordance with your entitlements at law.

I have no doubt that ABBBC Pty Ltd count on the fact that even if directed, their refusal to comply will stop a consumer from taking the final step in the litigation process, which is to use the Small Claims Tribunal System, this is why I have systematically labelled their business one of the best con's to date, because they traded in breach of the law, and the price is factored to be in the lower range to deter people from taking action and enforcing their legal rights.

That is what they count on.

Here is the response, and obviously we have more bodies to contact, although we have a surprise coming for our readers about another complaint which we cannot reveal until the investigation is complete so as to protect the integrity of the investigation by the relevant body.

For all of those who agitated and alleged we were a hate page with an unfounded basis for our community you have just been proven wrong. It was never personal, it was about a company failing to conduct itself without the constraints of enshrined legislation. It has nothing to do with weight loss it is about corporate integrity which so far has eluded both Mr Evans and Ms Bines.

Please note I did not disclose my personal address so as not give Mr Evans the opportunity to subpoena the file under Freedom of Information, as I did not want him to have the opportunity to stalk me as he did Ms Tara Bates. I would encourage all members or consumers who have purchased prior to 5 December 2012, to make your complaints to OFT, obtain a ruling, and this page will provide advocacy for you so you can attend your states Small Claims Tribunal, including assistance in drafting your complaints, in order to get an Order for payment and costs against this business.

You are entitled to a refund. That is the reality.

One very loyal client of ABBBC prepared her own work and template only to have it stolen by ABBBC Pty Ltd or I should say their new name Clean Eating Enterprises.

When she complained Michelle's post was removed and then she was removed from the forum which she contributed to and paid to be a member of.

To add insult to injury Ashy Bines and Stephen Evans are both making vexatious DMCA complaints to drop box and facebook to have drop boxes removed and facebook pages removed which points out the flaws in their businesses, whilst they are in breach themselves of copyright law and Terms and Conditions of Facebook.

Let us start with the documents which have been contributed by members of the public and other authors which Ashy Bines and Steven Evans are claiming as their copyright material.

They are all listed in the files section on the Ashy Bines Clean Eating Facebook Group - which is free to anyone who applies to get into the group so are hundreds of women who simply apply and are accepted after all facebook groups are free, you do not have to pay to access them and let's face it not many people are using the online forum and we have demonstrated that.

Michelle who contributed information she prepared herself and shared with the forum was reported as copyright of Clean Eating Enterprises when she is the author, further they claimed ownership of ebooks which are authored by other people as their own.

When Michelle raised the issue in the forum her post was deleted.

And she was removed from the forum after paying for the Ashy Bines Clean Eating program.

Why does Clean Eating International claim ownership of ebooks and information prepared by their own clients which they share with each other, there could only be one reason, vexatious dishonesty and the incapacity of being able to produce their own work in their words, including inspirational guides and information or additional assistance to their client base. Rather relying on the paying customers to do it for them, and then when they want to share their own information or ebooks which are available on the web free, that is when CAI or ABBBC try to shut it down with dishonest and false DMCA notices to a service provider and facebook.

We already know that Ashy Bines Clients are the heroes of the forum as they do all the work themselves, we also know that the Bootcamps - who are managed by sub contracted PT's or employed PT's are good value so why are they being so deceptive and or willing to plagiarise and claim as their own, authored information which does not belong to them. In my view it is because they behaving with dishonesty.

Inserted by Anne:-

On 10/01/2013 Mr Evans and Ms Bines from Clean Eating Enterprises claimed copyright over material belonging to me, (How to upload ebooks) and from Clean Eaters Group (unrelated to our page and free) Christmas Recipes via DMCA Notice. This disabled the drop box of Clean Eaters a group of women who work for free to motivate and help each other share recipes and support each other. Nobody at ABBBC nor CEE had a lawful reason to issue the DMCA Notice or interfere with the rights of this group. This is corporate theft, thuggery and even loyal customers of ABBBC are outraged by what has happened to a group of humble dedicated women on this free forum. This company already has been denounced for and proven to have plagiarised work belonging to others, claiming copyright over work and ebooks written by third parties which do not belong the company but to try and cripple a group of 3,800 women and men who are simply working quietly as a community is reprehensible. This conduct outclasses the conduct of Peter Foster the 1990's fitness industry crook.

So I asked Mr Evans personally why he would engage in such conduct and yes I was very terse in my inbox this was his answer:-

This response was the most touching one given that this credible and honest women is an Ashy Bines Brand Supporter, and even to the most loyal of supporters this conduct has in fact made them cringe. Her answer is honest, humbling to Sarah, and Clean Eaters Group and is as fair as you can be especially given she is an ABBBC supporter. (In response to our post on the page which supported this group and outed the conduct of Evans and Bines.

Moreover they further abuse the facebook complaints system to have pages removed they do not like for example they complained and had suspended the following page based on accusations of nudity and sexual deviancy.

This page was called Ashy Bines Offers No Customer Support and Her Diet Plan is a Fraud, and was suspended by Facebook albeit it is being appealed however all this page carried was our blogs and information which demonstrated the lack of customer service which ABBBC are well versed in removing so as to cull and mislead as many consumers as possible on their fan page and in their forums.

Consider these posts in today's forum which were removed quite promptly I might add.

We have already demonstrated how the new guidelines are flawed and how Ashy Bines Director gives advice which is negligent. What is astounding is for a Clean Eating Forum, the debate within the group is not facilitated by staff who are qualified but used as an advertisement board for Ashy Bines Brand product which are incongruent with Clean Eating.

Curious how the online dietitian who is sub contracted Ashy Bines Guidelines and was hotly debated by the members was removed because it may make Ashy Bines Brand look bad.

What is allowed however is ASN Jaime to promote Cleanse an Ashy Bines Brand Product but as for Accredited Dieticians with Honours Degrees, well they prefer to delete that. Which means when Ashy Bines says she cares about her 'girls' what she really means is as long as you follow my guidelines, do not question me, adore me, adulate me, buy and support my products, then it is all "great babe", otherwise it is deleted and or at worst you are removed from the forum if the question is too hard.

The fighting continues:-

Today ABBBC featured in the Mackay Newspaper the Mercury, not only was the article demonstrably wrong, it was misleading. Not in so far as the bootcamps are concerned but there was a lot of hype and not a lot of truth in what was said. For example, she does not have 500K fans you only have to check right now.

Anne's response to the article, found here.

Perhaps since your company seems to have got the bootcamps right, you might concentrate your efforts on getting your Clean Eating Guidelines Business Right, after all OFT has been issuing compliance notices, you have had thousands of complaints and refused refunds even when OFT has directed you to provide them, forcing people to have to opt for the Small Claims Tribunal and all the while knowing that people, customers, ordinary Australians some who are battlers, have paid their money, not received the product or service and they are going to walk away because you make it too hard.

What you do not like however is the fact that your being called out on your unlawful and poor behaviour so you engage in tactics which are so reprehensible and dishonest you abuse social network not only to sell your product and mislead women, but to freeze accounts of genuine customers who complain, or who have a page to illustrate your poor behaviour, then you act, you stalk the person like Bernadette who has her own blog, you try and subscribe to her account and try to find where she lives? That is not normal behaviour for business owners. Normally one works on how to create a customer service model, and improve it then this blog and this page is no longer needed. Have you not understood this? Do you think engaging in sabotage and vexatious dishonesty makes you look even worse?

Trying to hack accounts?

Meanwhile this is the type of behaviour your staff engage in on a public forum which shows lack of discipline and is vulgar and unprofessional, especially from an Admin Member such as Trudie Teitz whom Anne has a great deal of respect?

Now it is commendable that Ashy Bines Brand wants to donate money to charity, we would suggest she assists Beyond Blue or Mental Health Services Organisations because a lot of the women on the forum suffer from depression associated with weight loss including anxiety, but whilst I applaud her public offer, I have to say that it is very similar to what Sweat2Shred did prior to her decision to make this announcement as they donate money to an Abused Children Charity. Of course anyone who contributes to charity ought to be commended but it seems strikingly similar to the model of the new business of Sweat2Shred, lest we forget ABBBC used their post to promote on their page, trying to pass off the photo as their own without disclosure.

In my view the google search engines are so tainted with poor reviews and information that I am somewhat cynical, I think it is being done in an attempt to restore some sort of creditability, it is like mitigation prior to sentencing in a court case. So yes Trudie, she may want to help people out, but what about helping the thousands of clients who have made her millions of dollars which she walked away from, abandoned, and refused to provide the service and advice? Do you not think they ought to be helped out too?

It is easy to say I just want to help people, doing it with integrity and candour is another.

Lastly, I think we are all sick of the people who visit the page and make the most atrocious comments and dare to call us unreasonable. Here is an example of what we put up with everyday.

We will not address the first post as what we explained to her was that this page was not about the bootcamps, that they were generally well received, the issue was the Clean Eating Guideline and Forums.

We are being fair, we do this pro bono, we work full time, we have families, we are certainly not bored, nor sad and not in the least bit angry. We get annoyed when our accounts are frozen and or attempts are made to hack them or when our pages get suspended by deceitful means but we certainly are motivated. It takes guts, hard work to balance the facts and information without emotion. To spend our own money to promote posts to make sure people make AN INFORMED DECISION - why? because we do not want them on our page wanting help - having to rehouse them and help them with refunds. We want ABBBC to provide the service and advice that comes with the product they sell to everyday women who do not attend bootcamp.

No need to pity us Cassie Mather we are a proud team of advocates who give a voice to so many women we wish we did not have to do, which is why we implore Brand Ashy Bines to address it. Activism is a tough job and not always popular however we do it with quiet dignity, and respect.

We acknowledge the dedication of so many members of our community who help selflessly to assist each other and the admin team.

We as a collective to not blame anyone, however we demand that Brand Ashy Bines complies with ACL and OFT / Consumer Legislation just like everyone else has to. We concede that there is always going to be an attrition rate of 5% in every business. However we represent almost half of the paying customer base of 50,000 or if you read the facebook forum numbers is only 40,000.

However make the distinction please and read the information. Again for those who are confused, we support clean eating, and in particular we support the women who were former clients of ABBBC and who opened their own group with 3,500+ members for the excellent work they do everyday, free of charge providing advice and service, recipes and information to women who need it. FREE.

We do not believe that the guidelines prepared by Ashy Bines are sustainable in the long term and it is "not clean eating" to be selling artificial products such as proteins or cleanse. Clean Eating has the answers to those solutions. We also do not believe in the way ABBBC permitted and continue to permit women to buy and sell and or advise each other over banned substances, or other substances that is not clean eating and it could be dangerous.

If Ashy Bines was serious about this business she would work hard and continue to educate herself in Nutrition, she would have staff on the facebook forum answering questions, and the online forum would be properly managed. In my view however ABBBC cannot afford to do that - why because the price factor does not permit lifetime support and payment of professionals for prolonged periods therefore that is why we say the clients are the heroes because they do all the work themselves and in so doing they let ABBBC off the hook.

Now I could put example after example of the documents and information created free by customers to help one another, but it would make this blog ten pages. I have the screenshots however in the event I am asked to prove it. One only needs to look in the file section of the Ashy Bines Clean Eating Facebook Group. It should be noted that Ashy Bines and Steven Evans Claim them as their own and continue to make copyright claims from the work created by others.

Written by Cathy Brophy.

Updated by Anne 11/1/2013

A positive note for Ashy Bines, the new guidelines being distributed as of 24/10/2012 are a vast improvement to the previous ones which were simply lacking in substance and fell short of market credibility. (This includes the Cookbook).

What is wrong with the new guidelines and cookbook, more importantly the guidelines (still sold on the basis/name of a Diet Plan depending on which page you are on and which post you are reading).

In short:

Noticeably absent is the ABBBC sub-contractor and employed Nutrition For Life Accredited Dietitians from any endorsement of either of the Ebooks. Julie Masci, dietitian, has not endorsed nor put her name to the products.

Dan Nimmo is the only named person with the least impressive qualifications, when comparing him to Julie Masci, who endorses the product. One has to ask, given the friendship between ABBBC Director Steven Evans and Daniel Nimmo, is this an arms length bona fide endorsement? How much money has exchanged hands for the only named endorsement on the actual product?

The use of pseudonyms to provide advice and endorsements is of no value whatsoever, in fact, they are misleading and could induce a customer to believe the product has credibility when in fact once we contacted the Nursing Federation, and Medical Boards, and we were advised that any endorsement would be acknowledged by the use of name, qualifications, particulars of experience including education, as per Daniel Nimmo's endorsement. Therefore the purported endorsement by the alleged Cardiologist, Nurse and Dermatologist is questionable and attempts to mask the apparent flaws contained in the Ebooks and should be disregarded as a furphy.

The Clean Eating Plan Video (Sales) contradicts the Guidelines/Diet Plan and in particular, in so far as the inconsistency with the use of supplements which is not congruent with Clean Eating per se.

The Dietitian Association advises that any diet plan which purports to provide health advice, meal plans, and the like must provide the following:-

(a) Nutritional Value(s) and facts for each snack, meal option suggestions, and

(b)Kilojoules and

(c) For example:- How the food will effect the body:-

Issues like what is the Glycemic Content, whether the meal is low carb/high in protein and its value to the body when eating that portion or size, it fails to advise why if at all you need nutritional supplements and in what circumstances, whether the meal or snack is heart healthy, low in fat, sugar content/artificial sweeteners contained in the supplement recommendations, omega 3 to omega 6 ration, sodium content, (you get the general idea) and how it effects your body?.

Sadly It still purports to provide the unfettered catch cry phase "lose weight fast guaranteed watch your waist shrink in just days" without taking into account:-

(a) The age group ranges,

(b) Possible medical and or mental health issues and how medication can effect the process of weight loss,

(c) To consult a medical practitioner prior to undertaking the diet plan to have your personal circumstances assessed in order to not feel disappointed should your results not be in line with the expected sales pitch.

There are of course a myriad of reasons why a diet will not deliver immediate guaranteed weight loss, why? Because nobody can provide that guarantee having regard to the factors hereinbefore stated. Therefore whilst there is a vast improvement in the size, colour and product presentation, it still falls short of what one would expect of a diet plan particularly when you can purchase a diet plan from Accredited Dietitians for as little as $19 and Clean Eating has been around for so long, there are hundreds of free resources on the internet which provide information of equal if not higher quality and which provide sensible advice and does not promise spectacular results, rather focused on the lifestyle change which will more likely than not lead to a healthier lifestyle but may not yield quick weight loss.

Finally, whilst we have exposed some of the negligent advice Ashy Bines PT and Director has provided on her forums, we note she has Australian qualifications as a PT yet she fails to provide advice on the guidelines preferring to obtain advice from two PT's from Sydney, who are friends, and whom one has a questionable financial background. Does that make the advice invalid? No, but it makes you question the cohesiveness of the Ebook and whether it offers value for money and why you would taint the product with a party which has a questionable public financial history.

Whilst Clean Eating is not a fad diet, in my opinion what Ashy Bines offers constitutes a fad diet having regard to the representations she makes via the Ebook/Product/Sales Video.

Further the lack of structure in including alternatives for the International Market, and using colloquialisms which are foreign to International Customers or options which are available in their own country, makes the product fall short of its International Promise to be universal.

The hero of the Ashy Bines Clean Eating Guidelines - is the Facebook forum. Women who help each other every single day with support and recipes which they share and variances to the guidelines, that is the only reason in my view why the business has survived for so long. They do not realise that it is not Ashy Bines providing the support, it is themselves, and they are the heroes of the whole project.

For example, here is a post on one of the new pages run by ABBBC, which show a picture of the guidelines for the international market, yet refers to it as a diet plan. It cannot be both.

In fact, on 6 November 2012, the page name was changed to Amazing Bikini Body Diet Transformations. For what reason? It is unknown, save that there are complaints lodged with Scambook world wide perhaps? In my opinion, the name change is that they are desperately trying to sell their product under as many banners as possible, using social media in order to avoid legislation governing their conduct, with a total of 8 pages now running, selling the same product to different audiences under different titles, as confirmed by Mr Steven Evans, Director of ABBBC.

Who is Daniel Nimmo?

Please note:

Daniel Nimmo is regarded as an industry leader as a PT, see link. However there are allegations that he is friends with both Directors, Bines and Evans. Herein is the proof, and makes me question the credibility and/or objectiveness of Mr Nimmo’s when essentially he is the only name who underpins the whole diet plan.

http://wellness.edu.au/presenters-2/daniel-nimmo/

Dan Nimmo’s links are:-

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dan-Nimmo-Fitness-C-QLD-Naturopathy-Nutrition-and-Personal-Training/173492996073246

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dan-Nimmo-Fitness-C-QLD-Naturopathy-Nutrition-and-Personal-Training/173492996073246

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwellness.edu.au%2Fpresenters-2%2Fdaniel-nimmo%2F&h=DAQFtwAth

https://www.facebook.com/daniel.nimmo

He has also worked at the Golden Doors Retreat, known as and situated at The Golden Door Health Retreat, Queensland, but it has been confirmed on 16 November 2012, that he is no longer associated with, nor employed by this business, located at:

400 Ruffles Road Willow Vale, QLD, 4209

Phone: 61 7 5540 6100 [(07) 5540 6100 for Australian Residents]

Fax: 61 7 5546 6173 [(07) 5546 6173 for Australian Residents]

Email: [email protected]

Sydney Based Nurse Anonymous:

(Page 60 of the Guidelines)

The use of a pseudonym does not necessarily invalidate the value of the information, but it makes it worthless on the basis that it is not endorsed appropriately as previously highlighted.

Dermatologist Anonymous:

Page 56, same analogy applies.

Cardiologist Anonymous:

Notwithstanding that the purported advice is surprising given the education level, the standard of expression is not only surprising, it is not congruent with in my opinion, an experienced Cardiologist would speak, for example if he were referring to milk products as he does, and asserts he read some interesting information from the Heart Foundation, I submit he would have cited the article as doctors are experienced with writing information, they cite their references in order to not be held responsible for information they have disseminated which is not theirs. Nor is it a habit for a trained doctor especially a specialist to adopt the information from a third party source without full acknowledgement and quotation marks. That being said in my view one ought to have great difficulty believing that this information was in fact provided by a Cardiologist, and the fact that he will not qualify himself nor his practice, says a lot, and should force consumers to ask questions. It does not sound right, it does not feel right, then it is not credible in my view.

Sydney Based PT's who provide advice but do not endorse the products:

Please note I am not suggesting the advice is not appropriate nor competent. However, I find some of the background to be questionable when trying to sell a product and obtain market share, when you are seeking credibility, these issues (which are available publicly) make you question why one Ashy Bines PT did not provide the advice, and, two, why they would choose PT's who have had a colourful history?

Kenneth Cheer (whom is also friends with Scott Mathew Dingwall)

Links located re: Scott Matthew Dingnall

https://creditorwatch.com.au/company/profile/84800631915

http://businessprofiles.com/details/dingwall-scott-matthew/AU-84800631915

ASIC – Searches:

http://www.abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbnHistory.aspx?SearchText=84800631915

http://www.abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbnHistory.aspx?SearchText=84800631915

We also note that ABBBC was listed on the NZ Scam Watch Page:-

Scam Watch NZ

https://www.facebook.com/FraudInfo

In my opinion whilst the guidelines/diet plan has improved substantially from its three previous versions, given all the feedback and complaints from customers, which still to this day continue to roll in despite the changes to the current updated version, demonstrates that the product still falls short of the mark. It would have cost them very little overall, in time and expense, to have the plan assessed properly, by, say, Julie Masci, and remove any issues which may give the impression that the product has not evolved on a professional basis. Just because it is prettier to look at and has more content, does not make it a sustainable, nor a product which has intrinsic public value or market credibility.

Like I mentioned previously, but for the incredible dedication of the women on the forum who are simply members and who provide each other advice, recipes and support to each other without expense to the Ashy Bines Brand, ABBBC Clean Eating would have now died a slow death. They are the true heroes, and those who have left the ABBBC Clean Eating Group and moved to Sensible Clean Eaters, which is not only free, but offers incredible advice and support, then one simply has to ask - what are you paying for? In my view, nothing you cannot get yourself free of charge, as many ex customers have worked out for themselves, and, in fact improved the Facebook group model, which is more congruent. The new guidelines are also a platform for Ashy Bines Brand to further spruik her products, such as Tone, which is not an industry leader, and is definitely in opposition to the principals of Clean Eating.

With the ABBBC brand under a lot of public scrutiny, Ashy Bines and Steven Evans have turned to a new Facebook page, titled Amazing Bikini Body Transformations, in order to sell the Ashy Bines branded "diet plan."

On this page you can find re-hashed ABBBC "success" stories, images of Ashy posing in swimwear and on gym equipment, as well as constant Facebook bot replies to simple questions that link you to Ashy's Diet Plan website instead of giving simple yes, no, or one sentence answers.

A lot of the women are leaving comments on this new page, notifying ABBBC that they are finding it very difficult to understand what it is they're buying, what's in it, and how much it will cost, because of Ashy Bines and co. lack of response to simple queries. Of course, these comments are also left ignored, aside from Facebook bot comments linking to Ashy Bines Diet Plan, telling the user to look up the information there instead.

Also in question is the refund policy, in which Ashy and co. have left no doubt about, in some of the Facebook page's comments on Amazing Bikini Body Transformations posts.

Any person who has purchased this plan is now entitled to a refund, because ABBBC have guaranteed the policy.

With Ashy and Steven's lack of knowledge and qualifications, and the amount of bad press ABBBC has accumulated, I'm honestly surprised that women are still falling for it.

All of the information found in her "diet plan" is not only common sense, but can be found all over the internet for free! All you have to do is open up the Google search engine in your internet browser!

But, to save some women the trouble, I have added Ashy Bines updated Diet Plan and new Recipe .PDF below.

As of 16th Oct 2012, Ashy Bines, Director of ABBBC Pty. Ltd. sends email advising her client/fan base that she wanted to whip up a quick guide. Well sadly, she did not whip it up, instead of writing to her fans and acknowledging the source and saying for example " I found this great article for you all which I hope will provide you insight and assistance" and then putting in a link to acknowledge the source, she simply adopts it as her own. By her own conduct she is damaging her reputation on her own accord. The brand Ashy Bines or ABBBC cannot have credibility or integrity if it is in effect 'stealing' other people's work and passing it off as their own.

Respect is earned, you cannot command respect if you are pretending to be someone or something you are not, transparency leads to corporate integrity. This has been endemic conduct by Director Ashy Bines, it is not the first time we have exposed her plagiarism, nor plagiarism by Director Steven Evans. One mistake, perhaps an individual could accept that they failed to cite their source, but after being exposed now for multiple offences of duplicity and plagiarism, it would appear on its face that the lesson has not been learned.

Further it undermines the credibility of the corporate structure, its directors and reinforces to potential customers that at the end of the day, why do they need to pay for the product sold by ABBBC Pty Ltd, when all the information is free on the Internet and there are a number of free groups for Clean Eaters such as sensible Clean Eaters Facebook group.

Moreover if you use the google function there are thousands of links to facebook pages, groups and websites which provides free information in relation to Clean Eating.

Feel free to ask for assistance at the Ashy Bines = Waste of $ Facebook page.

Here is a copy and paste of the recent email from Ashy Bines @cleaneatingdietplan.com. Note that we have now established that Ashy's Diet Plan as of this moment is not a Diet Plan, only basic guidelines.

Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:25:36 -0400

To: (email with-held for privacy purposes)

From: [email protected]

Subject: 7 Deadly Sins of Clean Eating

Hi Lovely Ladies,

I Just wanted to whip up a quick guide about helping you with your eating as I'm getting a lot of emails through with you losing track-I've answered you guys but incase some of you were scared of asking me directly I thought I'd just put a few tips together. I'm also happy to stay after each Tuesday and Thursday evenings to answer any questions!

Getting off track is easy! You've been clean for a few weeks and aren't losing weight like you thought you would.

It may be because you're consuming more calories than you think.

Keep reading to discover seven sneaky habits that may be sabotaging your weight loss efforts.

Mistake #1: Forgetting Liquid Calories

It's easy to forget that the things you drink have calories - some more than you'd think. In fact, some beverages have more calories than an entire plate of food.

It is estimated that around 20 precent of your daily calories come from what you drink. So as you drink your juice with breakfast, rehydrate with a sports drink at the gym, or drink a glass of wine at dinner, think about the calories you're adding.

For calories' sake, it's best to avoid all sweetened sodas, sweetened or flavoured coffee drinks, sweetened tea, and smoothies. Replace these high-calorie drinks with water, skim milk, and unsweetened herbal tea. Because while they taste great, liquids generally don't satisfy hunger, so they are just empty calories.

Mistake #2 Meal Skipping

Many dieters think they'll cut their calorie intake by skipping a meal, usually breakfast.

But this is a mistake.

Research has shown that those who skip breakfast actually weigh more than those who eat three meals a day. Skipping a meal usually causes you to eat more calories during the day because you will end up eating even more food later in the day because you're so hungry.

So aim to eat three meals MINIMUM and aim to get 6 in- smaller regular meals increase your metabolism burning more calories at rest! A healthy breakfast that will keep you feeling full all morning contains protein and fiber. An example would be whole-grain toast and an egg.

Mistake #3: Oversized Portions

Just because restaurants load your plate with a mountain of food doesn't mean you should eat that much at home for a normal meal.

Remember that your stomach, like your heart, is the size of your fist. Don't think you could fit much food into your fist? You're right. And contrary to what mama taught you as a child, you don't have to eat all the food in front of you.

To eat a little less, use smaller plates and eat slower so you know when you're full- if your like me and pummel down food you have to get the amount right instead of going off 'feeling' full because if you eat until you get this feeling you'll be so far gone by the time the 20 minutes has caught up to you - you've completely over eaten and can't move from the couch. Also, remember that portion control also applies to healthy foods, as they, too, contain calories.

Mistake #4: Too Many Extras

A salad is a healthy, low calorie option. At least until you add dressing, bacon, cheese, and croutons.

These add extra calories fast.

One tablespoon of dressing contains 75 to 100 calories. With that in mind, it's no wonder grilled-chicken salads at a fast-food restaurant can have more calories than a hamburger.

Mistake #5: Slacking on your protein

If your looking to tone up and lose weight protein is super essential! You need a hit straight after training but also another 2-3 serves a day -cottage cheese at morning tea, can of tuna at lunch and half chicken breast are some examples! WHY?- proteins are the building blocks of our bodies. They are what your muscles are made of and if you're doing intense training and not supplying your body with the correct foods to generate muscle production you will not get toned and lean!- remember the photo of the 'diet' 'exercise and diet' bum I posted on facebook? That's what will happen! When you've generated some more muscle your body burns more calories just existing as well! WINNING!

Mistake #6: Eating Without Thinking

It happens to everyone. You're tired after a long day and you just want to veg in front of the television or read a good book. Unfortunately, mindlessly eating is often involved. You may think that since it's not on a plate it doesn't matter, but every bite you take counts.

When it comes to a successful diet, make rules for appropriate times to eat. And don't always feel the need to eat when relaxing. Try sipping on water or tea, chewing gum, or simply don't put anything in your mouth.

Mistake #7: Eliminating All Treats

Dieters often become overzealous in their plan and completely rid the house of all the food they enjoy, whether chips, sweets, snacks, or any high calorie food.

This commitment may last a few days until you can't tolerate it any longer and you overindulge on what you deprived yourself of.

A better plan is to allow yourself a treat every once in a while. TREAT not binge!

Remember that everyone makes mistakes, but be smart and don't let these common pitfalls keep your from meeting your weight loss goal!

Reach your fitness potential faster by coupling your good diet with a challenging exercise program. I'm here to motivate, instruct and encourage you to reach your goal.

Aim To ADD

It's easy to only focus on the foods that you're not supposed to eat when on a diet, but by changing your focus to all the foods that you are able to freely eat you'll stay motivated and stick with it.

Pack as many non-starchy vegetables as you'd like into your daily diet as well as fresh, seasonal fruits. Experiment with different methods of preparation for exciting variety.

Ashy Bines Clean Eating Diet Plan, po box 981, broadbeach, qld 4226, AUSTRALIA

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This was plagiarised from My Body, My Way. This was written word for word, without even using the spell check to make the distinction between US Spelling and AUS Spelling.

Proof of email header receipt with identity protected together with screenshots of the entire email. As you are now aware, myself and Ashy Bines = Waste of $ admins only provide information which is evidence based and which we can corroborate.

Proof of that the contents of the email was plagiarised:

Included in the image is the link for the actual Internet page, where you can see this as written in 2009.

"This is an important blog because Ashy Bines sells a product which is supposed to be Clean Eating Guidelines. She is against Duromine and does not promote the use of products which have now been banned in Australia. The problem which occurs is that the Ashy Bines Clean Eating Facebook Forum remains unmonitored to the dangerous posts made by members which expose vulnerable women some who are not even 18 to drugs which could cause serious side effects and even death. (Written by CB)"

This is a quote from a concerned ex-customer, and I 100% agree.

Not only are banned substances being promoted, but the group contains members under the age of 18. The Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge website states on the T's&C's page that you have to be 18 or older to not only join ABBBC, but also to gain entry into the forum and Facebook group. The confession below by an ABBBC administrator has me wondering if they uphold their terms at all.

Image taken from Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge = Waste Of $ Facebook page

The Product

Studies and research undertaken by Therapeutic Goods Administration Australia has found the capsules contain quantities of Yohimbine in them.

In Australia, Yohimbine is listed as a prescription only substance, but is also not approved for supply in any registered medicine within Australia. It is also illegal to import the substance under Customs Legislation without the correct, or appropriate permits.

The selling of, or supply of OxyELITE Pro capsules within Australia is also illegal.

TGA advises that if you have them in your possession, do not sell, supply, or ingest these capsules, and to discard any remaining product.

OxyELITE Pro also contains the ingredient 1,3-Dymethylamylamine, or, DMAA.

"DMAA is the main active ingredient contained in OxyElite Pro, and is designed to give the user increased workout intensity, focus, and other desired effects associated with elevated adrenaline levels. However, DMAA has recently come under scrutiny by the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) due to its potential for serious side effects and life-threatening complications."

The Side Effects

The life threatening side effects associated with OxyELITE Pro include:

• Hypothermia
• Heart Arrhythmia (Irregular Heartbeat, can lead to heart attacks)
• Seizures
• Stroke
• Heart Attacks
• Liver Damage and/or Failure
• Kidney Damage and/or Failure
• Psychiatric Side Effects
• Elevated Blood Pressure
• Sudden Cardiac Death (despite what the media says, it is not the same as a heart attack. Heart attacks occur when the heart stops due to a clot or damage to the heart, whereas cardiac arrest or death, is when the heart just stops working.)

Less severe side effects include:

• Skin Reactions
• Irritability
• Nervousness
• Dizziness
• Trembling
• Headaches
• Insomnia
• Profuse Perspiration (Intense sweating)
• Dehydration
• Itchy Scalp and Skin

Below are images taken from the Ashy Bines Bikini Body Challenge closed Facebook group, where a woman is selling a container of OxyELITE Pro. The end result is below

Another woman asks the members if there are any OxyELITE Pro capsules or powders available for sale.